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By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:29:11 +0000

What’s really troublesome is that they A. didn’t actually get the message, and B. in the face of 300 comments decided to close comments.

What kind of message does that send? I interpret it like this

Microsoft: Ah, we don’t really understand the ahmm, the question, but we do have some marketing materials here that we can talk about.
Developers: NO, this is the issue, and 300 people concur.
Microsoft: Ahm, yes, this does not resemble our marketing material, thanks for the comments, now go away.

And then…. silence.

No, not good at all.

By: Allen Huang

Allen Huang — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:34:37 +0000

@ Long Zheng,
It’s a pleasure mate! :]

By: Long Zheng

Long Zheng — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:01:22 +0000

@Allen Huang: Thanks for the update and screenshot Allen. Appreciate it!

By: Allen Huang

Allen Huang — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:17:49 +0000

@Long Zheng:
I just did the ACID Test, and in my GMAIL, the message looked IDENTICAL to the reference rendering!
You can’t just post the screenshot provided from ESP… (they last updated their GMAIL result in 28NOV2007!)

HELLO! it’s 2009!
look at my screenshot of GMAIL’s Rendering.. it looks 100% perfect!
CLICK

PS. PLEASE update this article!

@”confused”: You’re right, GMAIL HAS improved a LOT over the past few years… It’s definitely the leading webmail client (in both features AND Rendering!)

Personally I do not like using a Local Email Client – Web based Emails are much more accessible and faster (in my opinion) – it also doesnt take up unnecessary disk space.

By: Confused

Confused — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:27:02 +0000

I’m confused.

I send out professional emails every day to between 300,000 and 500,000 subscribers.
Gmail gives me the least trouble by far. If it ever has problems there are things I can do to fix it.

Outlook on the other hand has no alternatives. You can’t fix bits of code as Outlook will just ignore alot of code.
I don’t think any protests will ever get Microsoft to really change anything with Outlook. They don’t care.
Time will take care of these issues. More and more college age students are using gmail and firefox as oppossed to outlook and internet explorer. Does anyone use AOL anymore?

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Tell MS you want better formatted email in Outlook @ AskWoody.com — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:39:03 +0000

[...] Long Zheng at istartedsomething knows whereof he speaks. See his comments on the matter. I, too, am distressed that many of the people joining the drive are trying to get MS [...]

By: Lex

Lex — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:17:26 +0000

I remember when this blew up a few years ago when it was announced that Outlook was going to use Word as it’s rendering engine. Seems like much the same debate then as now, check the comments on this page on MSDN for example that describes the change and it’s impact:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338201.aspx

I think after all the pain of moving away from Trident it’s pretty unlikely they’ll go back especially as the business users who actually pay for Outlook probably have a lot less interested in well crafted html emails than they do that there document they wrote in word looks identical when sent inline in an email (not to mention it’s likely the trustworthy computing initiative was likely a driving force of moving away from IE)..

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