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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Touch Pack for Windows 7: why it&#8217;s a Swiss Army Knife of multitouch demoes for OEMs</title>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-75228</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome move MS. They had heaps of potential with the Tablet PC concept wayy back then but only something from Apple could bring interest en masse. Windows 7 is their comeback party so they want to ensure the best experience , and this time get the OEMS involved. Hope it works as I&#039;d like a push towards touch  in the near future and not receive the same fate as Vista&#039;s &#039;windows sideshow&#039; feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome move MS. They had heaps of potential with the Tablet PC concept wayy back then but only something from Apple could bring interest en masse. Windows 7 is their comeback party so they want to ensure the best experience , and this time get the OEMS involved. Hope it works as I&#8217;d like a push towards touch  in the near future and not receive the same fate as Vista&#8217;s &#8216;windows sideshow&#8217; feature.</p>
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		<title>By: BoInTheMix</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-75021</link>
		<dc:creator>BoInTheMix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Raja yogan</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-75009</link>
		<dc:creator>Raja yogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 
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		<title>By: Jon E</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-74937</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I would like to see, is for Microsoft to allow users without touch enabled devices to harness those touch capabilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I would like to see, is for Microsoft to allow users without touch enabled devices to harness those touch capabilities.</p>
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		<title>By: someone</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-74912</link>
		<dc:creator>someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 06:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t there a Touch Pack for UMPC too and two versions of Origami Experience? I was expecting one for Windows 7. Btw the XP UMPC one is here: http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/R2H/Touchpack_XP.zip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t there a Touch Pack for UMPC too and two versions of Origami Experience? I was expecting one for Windows 7. Btw the XP UMPC one is here: <a href="http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/R2H/Touchpack_XP.zip" rel="nofollow">http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/R2H/Touchpack_XP.zip</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc T.</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-74895</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original article says: 

&quot;After general availability of Windows 7, we will look at making the Microsoft Touch Pack for Windows 7 even more broadly available based on feedback from customers and partners. &quot;

So it might not only be available for OEMs right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original article says: </p>
<p>&#8220;After general availability of Windows 7, we will look at making the Microsoft Touch Pack for Windows 7 even more broadly available based on feedback from customers and partners. &#8221;</p>
<p>So it might not only be available for OEMs right?</p>
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		<title>By: Denver</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-74859</link>
		<dc:creator>Denver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow very nice technology, if this technology was within my price range I would be all over it. However like all the best things in life, the price will drop on touchscreen monitors as they become more mainstream. Its nice that Windows 7 has all this great technology built in… if I was a British MP I would definately be kitting out my second home and office with a Microsoft Surface and a couple of touch screen laptops!

Seriously though, Im always suprised that I dont see more of this great technology being used in more places, my only regular exposure to touch technology is the my local ATM and the self-checkouts at Fresh and Easy and Home Depot. The technology has more potential than that, the Microsoft Surface Lagoon sounds like something my kids would really like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow very nice technology, if this technology was within my price range I would be all over it. However like all the best things in life, the price will drop on touchscreen monitors as they become more mainstream. Its nice that Windows 7 has all this great technology built in… if I was a British MP I would definately be kitting out my second home and office with a Microsoft Surface and a couple of touch screen laptops!</p>
<p>Seriously though, Im always suprised that I dont see more of this great technology being used in more places, my only regular exposure to touch technology is the my local ATM and the self-checkouts at Fresh and Easy and Home Depot. The technology has more potential than that, the Microsoft Surface Lagoon sounds like something my kids would really like.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Davidson</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-74856</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s frustrating when Microsoft make releases OEM-only like this, especially for those of us who may be our own OEMs (i.e. built our own machines from parts, though that&#039;s not many laptop users and even fewer touch users).

Media Center was the worst/best example of this and it&#039;s great that it was made available at retail in Vista and Win 7. But MS still did the same with the Media Center TV Pack update (though part of the reason for that seems to be that the update is full of bugs and they seem to want to hide it from people who don&#039;t really need it, heh).

I wouldn&#039;t say everything has to be integrated into Windows or delivered via Windows Update, nor that all extra features should be free. What I do say is that you shouldn&#039;t have to (re-)buy particular hardware from particular vendors after a particular time just to get certain OS features. If MS don&#039;t want to give them away free then that&#039;s fine, sell the add-ons via the web like every other software company these days.

Making features hard for people to obtain is also a sure-fire way to make them less likely to reach a critical mass of adoption, not to mention developer support (though devs can usually get stuff through MSDN/TechNet). Touch already has those problems since it requires unusual hardware. Making people jump through hoops to get the OS components only seems to make things worse.

OTOH it is a bit of a balancing act as some crappy hardware could make people think that the touch support in Windows is awful when it&#039;s the hardware&#039;s fault, but I don&#039;t really see the difference between that and some of the awful TV tuners (and drivers for them) on the market. MS could always make the OS features refuse to run unless a known-good device is detected. They still get certification and control of which devices are allowed, without making it a royal pain for people who have such a device to install the features. (Keeping in mind that OEM are *absolutely useless* as providing this stuff and keeping it updated on their websites when it&#039;s left up to them.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s frustrating when Microsoft make releases OEM-only like this, especially for those of us who may be our own OEMs (i.e. built our own machines from parts, though that&#8217;s not many laptop users and even fewer touch users).</p>
<p>Media Center was the worst/best example of this and it&#8217;s great that it was made available at retail in Vista and Win 7. But MS still did the same with the Media Center TV Pack update (though part of the reason for that seems to be that the update is full of bugs and they seem to want to hide it from people who don&#8217;t really need it, heh).</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say everything has to be integrated into Windows or delivered via Windows Update, nor that all extra features should be free. What I do say is that you shouldn&#8217;t have to (re-)buy particular hardware from particular vendors after a particular time just to get certain OS features. If MS don&#8217;t want to give them away free then that&#8217;s fine, sell the add-ons via the web like every other software company these days.</p>
<p>Making features hard for people to obtain is also a sure-fire way to make them less likely to reach a critical mass of adoption, not to mention developer support (though devs can usually get stuff through MSDN/TechNet). Touch already has those problems since it requires unusual hardware. Making people jump through hoops to get the OS components only seems to make things worse.</p>
<p>OTOH it is a bit of a balancing act as some crappy hardware could make people think that the touch support in Windows is awful when it&#8217;s the hardware&#8217;s fault, but I don&#8217;t really see the difference between that and some of the awful TV tuners (and drivers for them) on the market. MS could always make the OS features refuse to run unless a known-good device is detected. They still get certification and control of which devices are allowed, without making it a royal pain for people who have such a device to install the features. (Keeping in mind that OEM are *absolutely useless* as providing this stuff and keeping it updated on their websites when it&#8217;s left up to them.)</p>
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		<title>By: Nicko</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-74855</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 13:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ARGH!
I want to try it out on the Latitude XT, but no... *shakes fist at Microsoft*
Why can&#039;t they make it available at least an expiring beta?!?!
Dammit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARGH!<br />
I want to try it out on the Latitude XT, but no&#8230; *shakes fist at Microsoft*<br />
Why can&#8217;t they make it available at least an expiring beta?!?!<br />
Dammit.</p>
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		<title>By: Long Zheng</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090528/microsoft-touch-pack-windows-7-why-demoes-oems/#comment-74846</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Zheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 12:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow, I forgot all about Ultimate Extras and come to think of it it definitely smells of Ultimate Extras v2.0. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow, I forgot all about Ultimate Extras and come to think of it it definitely smells of Ultimate Extras v2.0. <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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