Comments on: Sidebar gadget brings WebSlices to the desktop http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/ All the stuff about Microsoft and technology you haven't read anywhere else. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:06:26 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: PL http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-60136 PL Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:30:35 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-60136 It's embarrassing that people think MS needs to "catch up" with Mac, these Mac nerds can get away with statements like that because the general public has no idea what a Mac is. The truth is that Mac OS is extremely buggy, had numerous security flaws and has numerous issues with hardware and compatibility, but like I said, that's not something the general public knows so they fall for the Mac nerds crap on forums. It's the same with Linux, when you actually try to use it you see how crappy it really works. If you say that webslices is ripped from Mac I could just as well tell you the whole "web 2.0" is ripped from Microsoft, they were the first ones that put the xmlhttprequest intot he browser and voila most dynamic stuff we see to day is ripped and derived from that simple addition. Have you heard the expression nothing is new under the sun ? Everything is built on something, it's silly and immature to say that something is ripped or copied or anything like that, do you know the store how the mac os came to be ? Hmm, xerox anyone ? Life is to short for religious wars, use whatever you want but don't try and convince everyone else that your own buggy os is better than someone else's buggy os, the truth is that software is still in it's infancy, come back in 100 years. Cars have existed for more than a 100 years, they still fail in all sort of ways, why should software be any different ? It’s embarrassing that people think MS needs to “catch up” with Mac, these Mac nerds can get away with statements like that because the general public has no idea what a Mac is.

The truth is that Mac OS is extremely buggy, had numerous security flaws and has numerous issues with hardware and compatibility, but like I said, that’s not something the general public knows so they fall for the Mac nerds crap on forums. It’s the same with Linux, when you actually try to use it you see how crappy it really works.

If you say that webslices is ripped from Mac I could just as well tell you the whole “web 2.0″ is ripped from Microsoft, they were the first ones that put the xmlhttprequest intot he browser and voila most dynamic stuff we see to day is ripped and derived from that simple addition.

Have you heard the expression nothing is new under the sun ? Everything is built on something, it’s silly and immature to say that something is ripped or copied or anything like that, do you know the store how the mac os came to be ? Hmm, xerox anyone ?

Life is to short for religious wars, use whatever you want but don’t try and convince everyone else that your own buggy os is better than someone else’s buggy os, the truth is that software is still in it’s infancy, come back in 100 years.

Cars have existed for more than a 100 years, they still fail in all sort of ways, why should software be any different ?

]]> By: ikyouCrow http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-59500 ikyouCrow Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:35:05 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-59500 @tpgames: i didn't think i came across as offended, but hey i was just responding to the multiple cries that Apple creates and MS imitates. i know that being first doesn't make you the best. heck, most of the time (regardless of who does it) being first means being the worst! as for the whole MS god complex bit, meh. i've never noticed this from anyone at MS, but i actually do notice this from Linux fans. MS is like "we have this thing, that's like everything else out there", Linux is like "we have this thing that's like everything else out there, but it's unbreakable" and Apple is like "we invented this thing that everyone else out there has a version of. they stole it. immolate in the presence of our l33t skillz". if you don't want to use Windows, don't. i don't get why people complain saying stuff like "i can't run this. vista is a pig. i'm switching to a Mac. Linux 4 evah!". if you hate it so much, don't use it. @tpgames:
i didn’t think i came across as offended, but hey i was just responding to the multiple cries that Apple creates and MS imitates. i know that being first doesn’t make you the best. heck, most of the time (regardless of who does it) being first means being the worst!

as for the whole MS god complex bit, meh. i’ve never noticed this from anyone at MS, but i actually do notice this from Linux fans. MS is like “we have this thing, that’s like everything else out there”, Linux is like “we have this thing that’s like everything else out there, but it’s unbreakable” and Apple is like “we invented this thing that everyone else out there has a version of. they stole it. immolate in the presence of our l33t skillz”.

if you don’t want to use Windows, don’t. i don’t get why people complain saying stuff like “i can’t run this. vista is a pig. i’m switching to a Mac. Linux 4 evah!”. if you hate it so much, don’t use it.

]]> By: tpgames http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-59498 tpgames Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:36:02 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-59498 You obviously didn't get what I was talking about. I don't care who had what idea "first". Being first does not make you the best. Being the most error free makes you the best. MS is Too buggy to be better than Apple. I don't care how much MS pays their employees to support Vista. Vista is pure junk. Its take up a huge portion of the PC, takes up too much Ram (1gb). It is nothing but a symbol of what MS really is - gOd. They think they are god. They worshop themselves. They never gave a hoots patoot about their customers and never will. All they want is everyone to worship them, and buy their products often and over and over again while creating thousands upon thousands of wasted CDs because the software doesn't work with Vista. MS is about as environmentally friendly as the old ways of not filtering used water, and tossing garbage wherever it may lie. And yet, I use PC and XP. Will I ever upgrade to Vista? No! When I can no longer use my computer, it will become a linux build for only one reason - Free BSD, and other products are environmentally friendly, they do not produce garbage for the landfills. They do not require more printed money to buy. They do not require paperwork and other forms of waste to use and acquire. And, they remain compatible with other software developers without discrimination and bias as much as is possible given the restraints of human error, while human intelligence, is trying to not cause issues with other software programs. This is in constrast to MS stance of not caring what other software developers do, as long as MS can plow them over and destroy. This is my last comment here so that no one gets offended by me any further. :D Peace You obviously didn’t get what I was talking about. I don’t care who had what idea “first”. Being first does not make you the best. Being the most error free makes you the best. MS is Too buggy to be better than Apple. I don’t care how much MS pays their employees to support Vista. Vista is pure junk. Its take up a huge portion of the PC, takes up too much Ram (1gb). It is nothing but a symbol of what MS really is – gOd. They think they are god. They worshop themselves. They never gave a hoots patoot about their customers and never will. All they want is everyone to worship them, and buy their products often and over and over again while creating thousands upon thousands of wasted CDs because the software doesn’t work with Vista. MS is about as environmentally friendly as the old ways of not filtering used water, and tossing garbage wherever it may lie. And yet, I use PC and XP. Will I ever upgrade to Vista? No! When I can no longer use my computer, it will become a linux build for only one reason – Free BSD, and other products are environmentally friendly, they do not produce garbage for the landfills. They do not require more printed money to buy. They do not require paperwork and other forms of waste to use and acquire. And, they remain compatible with other software developers without discrimination and bias as much as is possible given the restraints of human error, while human intelligence, is trying to not cause issues with other software programs. This is in constrast to MS stance of not caring what other software developers do, as long as MS can plow them over and destroy.
This is my last comment here so that no one gets offended by me any further. :D
Peace

]]> By: ikyouCrow http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-59423 ikyouCrow Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:25:06 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-59423 @tpgames: MS isn't trying to catch up to the Mac. if you've paid attention to anything lately, it's quite the opposite. as with anything else in the industry, only those who remember would understand or even notice when it happens. when Apple announced WebClips, a lot of us 'Softies couldn't help but notice it was a lot like Active Desktop. when Apple announced Dashboard, i thought it was going to be just like the dashboard in MSN Explorer, but then Apple did something "revolutionary"; they made the dashboard tiles float on the desktop. media playback in Finder took me back to Windows 98 and when the Finder in Panther introduced the "genius" Sidebar, i had flashbacks to Windows 2000. as for the latest developments, why on this green earth after saying that transparency in the UI is useless and counter-productive, and abandoning it completely by the time Panther came out, would they then commit what has to be one of the greatest UI design crimes and make the sole menu bar of the entire interface transparent? launching applications from a quick search via spotlight? and on the subjuect of quick, QuickLook - if you pretend to not remember, Quick View was from Windows 95!!! (Quick View did actually make it's debut in NT 3.51 shell test) heck, you could go as recently as the ill-regarded Windows Me, which had one touch launching of a very similar feature. one way of looking at it would be saying that Apple being Apple, takes a really old feature from where ever it can find one, put a lil polish on it, smack an Apple logo on the thing and they are genius. don't let the aesthetics fool you. Apple copies just as much as everyone else does (yes including Linux). the difference being that they have the gall to stand on stage at a conference and claim it "new", "revolutionary", "unique", and what ever buzz words come spilling out of the Grand High Triangle Lover's mouth. the other way of looking at this would be to say that Apple finally comes around to what other developers (not just Microsoft) have realised and done already and figure that the old snatch and polish would make it great and they'd get to use all those buzzwords they love throwing around so much. i can't wait to see what golden oldie they pull up next. @tpgames:
MS isn’t trying to catch up to the Mac. if you’ve paid attention to anything lately, it’s quite the opposite.
as with anything else in the industry, only those who remember would understand or even notice when it happens.

when Apple announced WebClips, a lot of us ‘Softies couldn’t help but notice it was a lot like Active Desktop. when Apple announced Dashboard, i thought it was going to be just like the dashboard in MSN Explorer, but then Apple did something “revolutionary”; they made the dashboard tiles float on the desktop. media playback in Finder took me back to Windows 98 and when the Finder in Panther introduced the “genius” Sidebar, i had flashbacks to Windows 2000. as for the latest developments, why on this green earth after saying that transparency in the UI is useless and counter-productive, and abandoning it completely by the time Panther came out, would they then commit what has to be one of the greatest UI design crimes and make the sole menu bar of the entire interface transparent? launching applications from a quick search via spotlight? and on the subjuect of quick, QuickLook – if you pretend to not remember, Quick View was from Windows 95!!! (Quick View did actually make it’s debut in NT 3.51 shell test) heck, you could go as recently as the ill-regarded Windows Me, which had one touch launching of a very similar feature.

one way of looking at it would be saying that Apple being Apple, takes a really old feature from where ever it can find one, put a lil polish on it, smack an Apple logo on the thing and they are genius. don’t let the aesthetics fool you. Apple copies just as much as everyone else does (yes including Linux). the difference being that they have the gall to stand on stage at a conference and claim it “new”, “revolutionary”, “unique”, and what ever buzz words come spilling out of the Grand High Triangle Lover’s mouth.

the other way of looking at this would be to say that Apple finally comes around to what other developers (not just Microsoft) have realised and done already and figure that the old snatch and polish would make it great and they’d get to use all those buzzwords they love throwing around so much.

i can’t wait to see what golden oldie they pull up next.

]]> By: tpgames http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-59412 tpgames Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:43:48 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-59412 The only way MS will ever catch up to Mac is when they start focusing on error free programming instead of kicking alpha-3's to the public while calling it post-betas. The only reason I am even on a PC instead of Mac is because some programs (that I have yet to afford), was only available on a PC. These programs have a very limited audience to begin with, so wasn't very likely to ever make it to Mac. The only other reason why I use PC is because so many developers, browsers, and related IT businesses refused blatantly to even support Macs. They were all ganging up trying to kill the Mac. In support of what? Was Bill Gates paying them big bucks down in Palm Beach to change their allegiance to Microshifty? The only way MS will ever catch up to Mac is when they start focusing on error free programming instead of kicking alpha-3’s to the public while calling it post-betas. The only reason I am even on a PC instead of Mac is because some programs (that I have yet to afford), was only available on a PC. These programs have a very limited audience to begin with, so wasn’t very likely to ever make it to Mac. The only other reason why I use PC is because so many developers, browsers, and related IT businesses refused blatantly to even support Macs. They were all ganging up trying to kill the Mac. In support of what? Was Bill Gates paying them big bucks down in Palm Beach to change their allegiance to Microshifty?

]]> By: bradennnn http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-59201 bradennnn Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:47:42 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-59201 well, it looks like windows is back. haha. but i think thweir playing catch up to mac. but whatever, its deffs awesome. =] =] goooo vista well, it looks like windows is back.
haha. but i think thweir playing catch up to mac.
but whatever, its deffs awesome.
=] =]
goooo vista

]]> By: Fowl http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-58957 Fowl Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:30:35 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-58957 OMG it's ACTIVE DESKTOP!!!!! (did you know that Vista is the first version of Windows to ship without /that/ since windows 98? and now it's back...) OMG it’s ACTIVE DESKTOP!!!!!

(did you know that Vista is the first version of Windows to ship without /that/ since windows 98? and now it’s back…)

]]> By: someone http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-58944 someone Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:23:04 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-58944 you know the moment I read the headline, Web Clips came to my mind then I noticed you'd already mentioned it otherwise I'd have stated it in the comments : ) Web Clips, I've always felt, gets far less attention. MS should really deliver such a feature in a powertoy. Till then, we have some partial solutions like Amnesty Generator. you know the moment I read the headline, Web Clips came to my mind then I noticed you’d already mentioned it otherwise I’d have stated it in the comments : ) Web Clips, I’ve always felt, gets far less attention. MS should really deliver such a feature in a powertoy. Till then, we have some partial solutions like Amnesty Generator.

]]> By: PL http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-58804 PL Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:09:59 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-58804 Right now webslices is useless, ie8 does not support detection inside framsets and seem to have issues with running over https and through a forms login. I assume all these limitations will be removed once it hits rc or else it will be completely useless. Right now webslices is useless, ie8 does not support detection inside framsets and seem to have issues with running over https and through a forms login.

I assume all these limitations will be removed once it hits rc or else it will be completely useless.

]]> By: ikyouCrow http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/comment-page-1/#comment-58745 ikyouCrow Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:27:41 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080401/webslice-sidebar-gadget-to-desktop/#comment-58745 @Mike: you can also use Win+G to cycle through the gadgets individually, as opposed to using Win+Spacebar to bring them all to the foreground. @Mike:
you can also use Win+G to cycle through the gadgets individually, as opposed to using Win+Spacebar to bring them all to the foreground.

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