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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080206/more-vista-sp1-drivers-issue/#comment-71869</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having problems with Realtek sound drivers since SP1 on my laptop. When I reboot my computer, they come back up and work fine. But when I get up in the morning, they are gone again (I leave my laptop on sleep mode when I&#039;m not using it). So something is happening in the middle of the night that disables my sound drivers... weird stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having problems with Realtek sound drivers since SP1 on my laptop. When I reboot my computer, they come back up and work fine. But when I get up in the morning, they are gone again (I leave my laptop on sleep mode when I&#8217;m not using it). So something is happening in the middle of the night that disables my sound drivers&#8230; weird stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: LarryL</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080206/more-vista-sp1-drivers-issue/#comment-64590</link>
		<dc:creator>LarryL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had nothing but problems with Vista.  First, it wouldn&#039;t recognize my usb ports.  I installed SP1 and it cleared that up, but now I have no sound.  I&#039;ve reinstalled drivers and everything I can think of, still no sound.  There are actually other problems also.  
I&#039;m going back to XP sp2.  Sorry I spent the money on Vista.  I know this is a very complex business, but I don&#039;t have time to be tinkering with this.   Just seems to me that Microsoft has not done the homework (again!)
If I ran my business like this, I&#039;d be out of business.  You don&#039;t leave your quality control up to your customers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had nothing but problems with Vista.  First, it wouldn&#8217;t recognize my usb ports.  I installed SP1 and it cleared that up, but now I have no sound.  I&#8217;ve reinstalled drivers and everything I can think of, still no sound.  There are actually other problems also.<br />
I&#8217;m going back to XP sp2.  Sorry I spent the money on Vista.  I know this is a very complex business, but I don&#8217;t have time to be tinkering with this.   Just seems to me that Microsoft has not done the homework (again!)<br />
If I ran my business like this, I&#8217;d be out of business.  You don&#8217;t leave your quality control up to your customers!</p>
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		<title>By: sebastian2433</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080206/more-vista-sp1-drivers-issue/#comment-62760</link>
		<dc:creator>sebastian2433</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have Nvidia GeForce7000m and im experiences vast amounts of trouble with my video after I installed sp1. I dont know what to do. I guess wait for nvidia to put out an update?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Nvidia GeForce7000m and im experiences vast amounts of trouble with my video after I installed sp1. I dont know what to do. I guess wait for nvidia to put out an update?</p>
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		<title>By: Vista SP1 Fehler der Final - Seite 2 - drvista.de</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080206/more-vista-sp1-drivers-issue/#comment-52262</link>
		<dc:creator>Vista SP1 Fehler der Final - Seite 2 - drvista.de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] werde   Vistablog: Warum das Service Pack 1 noch nicht &quot;RTWed&quot; ist und das auch noch More on the Vista Service Pack 1 drivers roadblock - istartedsomething    __________________ Greets Yellow  kein Support per Mail oder PN [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JamesT</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080206/more-vista-sp1-drivers-issue/#comment-51979</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of you have reported a flawless Vista SP1 install experience and are wondering why Microsoft hasn&#039;t publicly released it yet.  After successfully installing the SP1 RTM build (6001.18000.x86fre.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840) on my HP Pavilion dv6500t notebook, I felt the same way -- thinking Microsoft must be absolutely nuts for delaying such a critical update.

Like most people here, I was convinced that SP1 must work fine for everyone as it did for me, so I began installing SP1 on my friend&#039;s Toshiba Satellite A135-S2266 notebook and expected the same successful results.

After SP1 was installed, my computer illiterate friend began freaking out and complained that her audio didn&#039;t work, YouTube video playback was choppy, and wireless wouldn&#039;t connect.  As identified by a newsgroup posting on MS Connect and Long&#039;s post here, some drivers for certain devices stop working properly:
-sound (no audio at all); [Realtek Chipset]
-graphics (after install, it reverted to Microsoft&#039;s generic drivers with no hardware video acceleration); [ATI RADEON X200M]
-wireless networking (does not work); [Atheros Mini PCIe 802.11b/g]
The easiest workaround was to download and reinstall the drivers from Toshiba&#039;s support site, which ended up fixing all these issues identified.

At this point, it seems Microsoft had made a very rational decision in delaying the SP1 release.  Had SP1 been delivered to Windows Update immediately, this would have broken very critical drivers for those who have the aforementioned (or similar) configuration.  Although the manual workaround is quite simple, you simply cannot expect an unsavvy computer user to identify and resolve the problem easily.  Thus, for the sake of alleviating headaches, it is best to first resolve this critical driver issue to ensure a smoother install experience for everyone.

I hope this clears up some misconceptions about the delay and severity of the driver issues!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of you have reported a flawless Vista SP1 install experience and are wondering why Microsoft hasn&#8217;t publicly released it yet.  After successfully installing the SP1 RTM build (6001.18000.x86fre.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840) on my HP Pavilion dv6500t notebook, I felt the same way &#8212; thinking Microsoft must be absolutely nuts for delaying such a critical update.</p>
<p>Like most people here, I was convinced that SP1 must work fine for everyone as it did for me, so I began installing SP1 on my friend&#8217;s Toshiba Satellite A135-S2266 notebook and expected the same successful results.</p>
<p>After SP1 was installed, my computer illiterate friend began freaking out and complained that her audio didn&#8217;t work, YouTube video playback was choppy, and wireless wouldn&#8217;t connect.  As identified by a newsgroup posting on MS Connect and Long&#8217;s post here, some drivers for certain devices stop working properly:<br />
-sound (no audio at all); [Realtek Chipset]<br />
-graphics (after install, it reverted to Microsoft&#8217;s generic drivers with no hardware video acceleration); [ATI RADEON X200M]<br />
-wireless networking (does not work); [Atheros Mini PCIe 802.11b/g]<br />
The easiest workaround was to download and reinstall the drivers from Toshiba&#8217;s support site, which ended up fixing all these issues identified.</p>
<p>At this point, it seems Microsoft had made a very rational decision in delaying the SP1 release.  Had SP1 been delivered to Windows Update immediately, this would have broken very critical drivers for those who have the aforementioned (or similar) configuration.  Although the manual workaround is quite simple, you simply cannot expect an unsavvy computer user to identify and resolve the problem easily.  Thus, for the sake of alleviating headaches, it is best to first resolve this critical driver issue to ensure a smoother install experience for everyone.</p>
<p>I hope this clears up some misconceptions about the delay and severity of the driver issues!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080206/more-vista-sp1-drivers-issue/#comment-51916</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>upgrade sp1? ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>upgrade sp1? &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ITsVISTA Web Links: February 7th &#124; ITsVISTA</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080206/more-vista-sp1-drivers-issue/#comment-51914</link>
		<dc:creator>ITsVISTA Web Links: February 7th &#124; ITsVISTA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More on the Vista Service Pack 1 drivers roadblock A bit more detail on the reason for the delay of SP1. (tags: SP1 ) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: I work there</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080206/more-vista-sp1-drivers-issue/#comment-51848</link>
		<dc:creator>I work there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Install sp1 and you find no problems
Upgrade sp1 and you might find no drivers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Install sp1 and you find no problems<br />
Upgrade sp1 and you might find no drivers</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just rubbish MS!
I just installed SP1 on my Vista x64 and guess what? NO drivers problems.
and more? I have an intel chipset, I have a realtek audio, I have an ATI video card. N O problems with drivers. Probably just in MS mind!
 This is simply unacceptable to happen nowadays!
Ok, let&#039;s assume that indeed there are a couple of faulty drivers issues stuff. Then why the heck not release the SP1 on MSDN and on private channels???
In my business I could use those 6 weeks to test SP1 in my environment to see if it really affects my configurations or not. 
But now I have to wait 6 weeks just to get my hands on it and then to start and test it. :&#124;
And so, IT&#039;S MY PROBLEM that I might hit a problem with it, I don&#039; want to wait for MS to fix this. Like in my PC, I don&#039;t have any problems and lucky me, but if there was a problem with drivers, I could know at least.
Bill Gates should really leave MS with a SERIOUS reorganization around there because like this we are going nowhere. :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just rubbish MS!<br />
I just installed SP1 on my Vista x64 and guess what? NO drivers problems.<br />
and more? I have an intel chipset, I have a realtek audio, I have an ATI video card. N O problems with drivers. Probably just in MS mind!<br />
 This is simply unacceptable to happen nowadays!<br />
Ok, let&#8217;s assume that indeed there are a couple of faulty drivers issues stuff. Then why the heck not release the SP1 on MSDN and on private channels???<br />
In my business I could use those 6 weeks to test SP1 in my environment to see if it really affects my configurations or not.<br />
But now I have to wait 6 weeks just to get my hands on it and then to start and test it. <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And so, IT&#8217;S MY PROBLEM that I might hit a problem with it, I don&#8217; want to wait for MS to fix this. Like in my PC, I don&#8217;t have any problems and lucky me, but if there was a problem with drivers, I could know at least.<br />
Bill Gates should really leave MS with a SERIOUS reorganization around there because like this we are going nowhere. <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080206/more-vista-sp1-drivers-issue/#comment-51808</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>confirmed that RC refresh 2 is the same as RTM ! :D yay !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>confirmed that RC refresh 2 is the same as RTM ! <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  yay !</p>
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