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	<title>Comments on: Joe Wilcox says enough is enough</title>
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		<title>By: Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-49317</link>
		<dc:creator>Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, seems that 7 is never enough.
There&#039;s more screenshot AND screencast at http://www.thinknext.net/archives/2150</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, seems that 7 is never enough.<br />
There&#8217;s more screenshot AND screencast at <a href="http://www.thinknext.net/archives/2150" rel="nofollow">http://www.thinknext.net/archives/2150</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rhys</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-49210</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hard time believing that Mr. Wilcox downloaded a Longhorn M1 build from a warez site, as the earliest leak was M3.

Longhorn in M1 was... not impressive. The earliest build of Longhorn I&#039;ve seen had: a download manager for IE and a drive space meter. Hardly a &quot;space-age operating system&quot; at that point! Flashy UI bits really didn&#039;t start getting compiled in until 364x and later, around M2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard time believing that Mr. Wilcox downloaded a Longhorn M1 build from a warez site, as the earliest leak was M3.</p>
<p>Longhorn in M1 was&#8230; not impressive. The earliest build of Longhorn I&#8217;ve seen had: a download manager for IE and a drive space meter. Hardly a &#8220;space-age operating system&#8221; at that point! Flashy UI bits really didn&#8217;t start getting compiled in until 364x and later, around M2.</p>
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		<title>By: ikyouCrow</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-49186</link>
		<dc:creator>ikyouCrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@charlieo:
i know i&#039;m probably one of the blasphemous few but i don&#039;t use MCE for TV. it&#039;s my video/play-music-really-loud-so-the-neighbours-want-to-kill-me kinda users.

i just don&#039;t understand how anyone can tolerate sitting in front their monitors to watch a movie. it&#039;s crazy i tell ya! completely incomparable to kicking your feet up and enjoying your DVDs and other such content at 10&#039;!

excellent job! keep up the great work! one request (or two depending on how you count it): host/display HD DVD and Blu-Ray content from within MCE itself. might not be up to you but still, i&#039;m just putting it out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@charlieo:<br />
i know i&#8217;m probably one of the blasphemous few but i don&#8217;t use MCE for TV. it&#8217;s my video/play-music-really-loud-so-the-neighbours-want-to-kill-me kinda users.</p>
<p>i just don&#8217;t understand how anyone can tolerate sitting in front their monitors to watch a movie. it&#8217;s crazy i tell ya! completely incomparable to kicking your feet up and enjoying your DVDs and other such content at 10&#8242;!</p>
<p>excellent job! keep up the great work! one request (or two depending on how you count it): host/display HD DVD and Blu-Ray content from within MCE itself. might not be up to you but still, i&#8217;m just putting it out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-49112</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Thurott made the &#039;train wreck&#039; statement here:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_ready.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Thurott made the &#8216;train wreck&#8217; statement here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_ready.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_ready.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-49078</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, it&#039;s 1.5-years old Intel MacBook. We just fixed WiFi stability on Tiger by replacing the router (Vista laptop didn&#039;t have any problems even with the old one, mind you!), and everything got screwed completely when she upgraded to the $%$%ing Leopard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, it&#8217;s 1.5-years old Intel MacBook. We just fixed WiFi stability on Tiger by replacing the router (Vista laptop didn&#8217;t have any problems even with the old one, mind you!), and everything got screwed completely when she upgraded to the $%$%ing Leopard.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-49074</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,

what hardware is she using? I am using amongst other things an Intel MacBook Pro which doesn&#039;t seem to have this problem... judging from the latest developer release though I think they might have fixed this issue.

Mike,

I am not saying things are perfect with any of these systems. At the end of the day they are being developed by humans which by design aren&#039;t perfect. Thankfully!

However, I am scratching my head as to why Vista has so many performance problems with the network and file i/o. What&#039;s more after doing extensive searches on the this and other issue on the MS site I can&#039;t find any mention of  it which makes me wonder if any of these issues will be addressed in SP1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>what hardware is she using? I am using amongst other things an Intel MacBook Pro which doesn&#8217;t seem to have this problem&#8230; judging from the latest developer release though I think they might have fixed this issue.</p>
<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I am not saying things are perfect with any of these systems. At the end of the day they are being developed by humans which by design aren&#8217;t perfect. Thankfully!</p>
<p>However, I am scratching my head as to why Vista has so many performance problems with the network and file i/o. What&#8217;s more after doing extensive searches on the this and other issue on the MS site I can&#8217;t find any mention of  it which makes me wonder if any of these issues will be addressed in SP1.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Halsey</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-49052</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Halsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this &quot;everything&#039;s fantabulous&quot; attitude that seems ever-present when aficionados talk  write about Vista or OS X.  People always speak about things like they&#039;re completely perfect when in fact the complete opposite is true.

For example.  I was chatting with a friend the other week about the iPod.  He told me that it&#039;s design perfection and the role model that all other MP3 players will always follow.  I ask why, if it&#039;s so good, did apple completely dump the entire thing when they launched the iPod touch?  Gone is the interface, style, everything that he was saying made the iPod the ultimate MP3 player.

We were chatting about how great the iPod touch is and eventually agreed that it is also NOT the pinnacle of MP3 player design of usability.  It&#039;s merely the bee have RIGHT NOW.  Sooner or later something better will come along, we just can&#039;t envisage it yet.

So everyone who says Vista is perfect or OS X is perfect had better remember...  It might be perfect TODAY, but tomorrow you&#039;ll probably think it clunky and old hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this &#8220;everything&#8217;s fantabulous&#8221; attitude that seems ever-present when aficionados talk  write about Vista or OS X.  People always speak about things like they&#8217;re completely perfect when in fact the complete opposite is true.</p>
<p>For example.  I was chatting with a friend the other week about the iPod.  He told me that it&#8217;s design perfection and the role model that all other MP3 players will always follow.  I ask why, if it&#8217;s so good, did apple completely dump the entire thing when they launched the iPod touch?  Gone is the interface, style, everything that he was saying made the iPod the ultimate MP3 player.</p>
<p>We were chatting about how great the iPod touch is and eventually agreed that it is also NOT the pinnacle of MP3 player design of usability.  It&#8217;s merely the bee have RIGHT NOW.  Sooner or later something better will come along, we just can&#8217;t envisage it yet.</p>
<p>So everyone who says Vista is perfect or OS X is perfect had better remember&#8230;  It might be perfect TODAY, but tomorrow you&#8217;ll probably think it clunky and old hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-49044</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, Apple is on 10.5.1 and readies 10.5.2. Two updates since October 26th. In 10.5.1 they still have WiFi completely broken -- kick me if it&#039;s not a major problem if your girlfriend has to reconnect the network every time she opens her laptop. So the heaven isn&#039;t there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, Apple is on 10.5.1 and readies 10.5.2. Two updates since October 26th. In 10.5.1 they still have WiFi completely broken &#8212; kick me if it&#8217;s not a major problem if your girlfriend has to reconnect the network every time she opens her laptop. So the heaven isn&#8217;t there.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-48981</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan,

There are definitely areas where Vista sucks royally. One of them is network throughput. I do creative work with large media files stored on networked NAS drives. The drives are attached via a 1 Gbit network. Accessing the drives from WinXP or Leopard is fast as hell while Vista seems to crawl along then speed up and suddenly start crawling again.

It certainly can&#039;t be driver related as it&#039;s happening on different machines with different network cards. It also can&#039;t be the NAS as if happend with different appliances. While I agree that this will probably get better over time as SP1 and SP2 for Vista get shipped it does make me wonder why Apple is capable of shipping an OS without such major issues. There is no doubt Leopard has it&#039;s problems but it&#039;s nothing compared to Vista.

Where my confidence in totally plummets if I then read that they are already working on the next version of Windows which they intend to release next year. My question would be what about fixing the problems with Vista first?

Usually the best indicator as to how well an OS upgrade runs and how much productivity improvements it brings is to look at corporate adoption. From about 20 odd large Australian corporates I work with not a single one has started a Vista migration. Most of them either will wait till SP2 or jump Vista alltogether and go straight to what ever the next version is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan,</p>
<p>There are definitely areas where Vista sucks royally. One of them is network throughput. I do creative work with large media files stored on networked NAS drives. The drives are attached via a 1 Gbit network. Accessing the drives from WinXP or Leopard is fast as hell while Vista seems to crawl along then speed up and suddenly start crawling again.</p>
<p>It certainly can&#8217;t be driver related as it&#8217;s happening on different machines with different network cards. It also can&#8217;t be the NAS as if happend with different appliances. While I agree that this will probably get better over time as SP1 and SP2 for Vista get shipped it does make me wonder why Apple is capable of shipping an OS without such major issues. There is no doubt Leopard has it&#8217;s problems but it&#8217;s nothing compared to Vista.</p>
<p>Where my confidence in totally plummets if I then read that they are already working on the next version of Windows which they intend to release next year. My question would be what about fixing the problems with Vista first?</p>
<p>Usually the best indicator as to how well an OS upgrade runs and how much productivity improvements it brings is to look at corporate adoption. From about 20 odd large Australian corporates I work with not a single one has started a Vista migration. Most of them either will wait till SP2 or jump Vista alltogether and go straight to what ever the next version is.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/joe-wilcox-enough-windows-7/comment-page-1/#comment-48938</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex: Microsoft never said they were going to add those features to Longhorn/Vista. They merely previewed those technologies at very early stages. Which of the features in Leopard were kept under wraps for more than two years?, afaik, the 10 main features were shown in 2005 developer conference. Unless you mean the 3d dock or the semi transparent bar which I don&#039;t know where they copied it from (hint, hint) also, the leaves wallpaper for the betas. How original of the trendy company, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex: Microsoft never said they were going to add those features to Longhorn/Vista. They merely previewed those technologies at very early stages. Which of the features in Leopard were kept under wraps for more than two years?, afaik, the 10 main features were shown in 2005 developer conference. Unless you mean the 3d dock or the semi transparent bar which I don&#8217;t know where they copied it from (hint, hint) also, the leaves wallpaper for the betas. How original of the trendy company, right?</p>
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