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		<title>By: Fast.</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080111/new-ui-framework-future-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-54539</link>
		<dc:creator>Fast.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WPF apps are practically as responsive as any other native app, on my Core 2 Duo, 1 GB, 256-MB GeForce 8400.

and let&#039;s not ever use the words &quot;Java&quot; and &quot;GUI&quot; in the same oxymoronic sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WPF apps are practically as responsive as any other native app, on my Core 2 Duo, 1 GB, 256-MB GeForce 8400.</p>
<p>and let&#8217;s not ever use the words &#8220;Java&#8221; and &#8220;GUI&#8221; in the same oxymoronic sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Fast?</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080111/new-ui-framework-future-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-47391</link>
		<dc:creator>Fast?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WPF fast on modern hardware? What is that, 12000 CPU PC with 5000 graphics cards?

You have to be joking, there is nothing in the world that can speed up the state of WPF mess. It is worse than the slowest Java GUI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WPF fast on modern hardware? What is that, 12000 CPU PC with 5000 graphics cards?</p>
<p>You have to be joking, there is nothing in the world that can speed up the state of WPF mess. It is worse than the slowest Java GUI.</p>
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		<title>By: GRiNSER</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080111/new-ui-framework-future-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-47144</link>
		<dc:creator>GRiNSER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, as i said in a previous comment, it might be an unmanaged framework similar to the WPF Managed Framework, based on milcore.dll...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, as i said in a previous comment, it might be an unmanaged framework similar to the WPF Managed Framework, based on milcore.dll&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aaaaa</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080111/new-ui-framework-future-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-47142</link>
		<dc:creator>aaaaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My best guess is this is an updated gui framework for native Win32 applications.

Microsoft has gone on a big managed code bender for the last few years, and basically ignored everyone that writes native Win32 apps.

Considering 95% of the OS itself is written in native code, and there are situations where you want to ship native applications (performance, stability, tons of code legacy that you don’t want to rewrite managed), it’s long overdue for something better to be publically available for native code developers to use than GDI/USER/COMCTLs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My best guess is this is an updated gui framework for native Win32 applications.</p>
<p>Microsoft has gone on a big managed code bender for the last few years, and basically ignored everyone that writes native Win32 apps.</p>
<p>Considering 95% of the OS itself is written in native code, and there are situations where you want to ship native applications (performance, stability, tons of code legacy that you don’t want to rewrite managed), it’s long overdue for something better to be publically available for native code developers to use than GDI/USER/COMCTLs.</p>
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		<title>By: Windows 7 &#187; Post Topic &#187; Un nuovo UI Framework in arrivo?</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080111/new-ui-framework-future-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-47012</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows 7 &#187; Post Topic &#187; Un nuovo UI Framework in arrivo?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nightski</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080111/new-ui-framework-future-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-47010</link>
		<dc:creator>nightski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s related to the Acropolis Framework.  Since that project was killed in order to integrate it (or something to that effect) into the .NET Framework, that seems logical.

In fact, there are so many things it could be instead of a WPF replacement that speculating about it seems like a huge waste of time.  V1 Frameworks are never perfect, and who is to say if they went to all the effort of building a new WPF replacement that it would be much better than if they worked on a V2 of WPF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s related to the Acropolis Framework.  Since that project was killed in order to integrate it (or something to that effect) into the .NET Framework, that seems logical.</p>
<p>In fact, there are so many things it could be instead of a WPF replacement that speculating about it seems like a huge waste of time.  V1 Frameworks are never perfect, and who is to say if they went to all the effort of building a new WPF replacement that it would be much better than if they worked on a V2 of WPF?</p>
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		<title>By: Random Reading: Push Linq &#171; Tales from a Trading Desk</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080111/new-ui-framework-future-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-46999</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Reading: Push Linq &#171; Tales from a Trading Desk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: New UI framework from Microsoft? &#124; Silverlight Guide</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080111/new-ui-framework-future-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-46979</link>
		<dc:creator>New UI framework from Microsoft? &#124; Silverlight Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Long Zheng dug up a job description for “a new Framework that will enable new UI experiences in future versions of Windows” and is wondering if this means Windows Presentation Foundation is taking a backseat. Performance issues with WPF have been talked about often and the comments in Long’s post show a bit of that. I do find it hard to believe that Microsoft would be rolling something entirely new. WPF has a lot of people excited about building Windows applications again and with Silverlight 2.0 becoming more WPF-like it would be odd to see full blown Windows development move in a different direction. My hunch (like a lot of the commentors) is that this is something else that will go along with WPF. The job description could just be a way to get people excited about applying. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Long Zheng dug up a job description for “a new Framework that will enable new UI experiences in future versions of Windows” and is wondering if this means Windows Presentation Foundation is taking a backseat. Performance issues with WPF have been talked about often and the comments in Long’s post show a bit of that. I do find it hard to believe that Microsoft would be rolling something entirely new. WPF has a lot of people excited about building Windows applications again and with Silverlight 2.0 becoming more WPF-like it would be odd to see full blown Windows development move in a different direction. My hunch (like a lot of the commentors) is that this is something else that will go along with WPF. The job description could just be a way to get people excited about applying. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080111/new-ui-framework-future-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-46899</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WPF is far from dead and, frankly, is not a slow UI platform when run on modern hardware. It&#039;s a huge improvement (technically) over the GDI+ based Windows display tech that has its roots in the original versions of Windows.

That said, MS does need to do a lot more to make WPF as easy to develop with as GDI+/WinForms development has become. I&#039;d put more weight behind this being improved framework features or new input mechanics (like gesture/multi-touch) than a WPF replacement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WPF is far from dead and, frankly, is not a slow UI platform when run on modern hardware. It&#8217;s a huge improvement (technically) over the GDI+ based Windows display tech that has its roots in the original versions of Windows.</p>
<p>That said, MS does need to do a lot more to make WPF as easy to develop with as GDI+/WinForms development has become. I&#8217;d put more weight behind this being improved framework features or new input mechanics (like gesture/multi-touch) than a WPF replacement.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Daily Bits - January 14, 2008 Alvin Ashcraft&#8217;s Daily Geek Bits: Daily links plus random ramblings about development, gadgets and raising rugrats.</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Daily Bits - January 14, 2008 Alvin Ashcraft&#8217;s Daily Geek Bits: Daily links plus random ramblings about development, gadgets and raising rugrats.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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