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	<title>Comments on: Internet Explorer 8 passes the Acid2 mark</title>
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		<title>By: Sergio Arizmendi</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071220/ie8-acid2-test/comment-page-1/#comment-46687</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio Arizmendi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Rob seems to know all of this because he works at either Microsoft or the CIA. 

So, he can claim anything he wants, and it must be true, but if MS claims something, then MS is lying.

Does it even remotely smell logical?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Rob seems to know all of this because he works at either Microsoft or the CIA. </p>
<p>So, he can claim anything he wants, and it must be true, but if MS claims something, then MS is lying.</p>
<p>Does it even remotely smell logical?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071220/ie8-acid2-test/comment-page-1/#comment-46682</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 01:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IE8 DOES NOT PASS THE ACID2 TEST.  Microsoft only claims it &quot;renders&quot; the smiley face. In fact, what you see is an offline doctored version of the actual test.  IE8 cannot and will not pass the actual online test.  More smoke and mirrors from Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IE8 DOES NOT PASS THE ACID2 TEST.  Microsoft only claims it &#8220;renders&#8221; the smiley face. In fact, what you see is an offline doctored version of the actual test.  IE8 cannot and will not pass the actual online test.  More smoke and mirrors from Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071220/ie8-acid2-test/comment-page-1/#comment-46414</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did Firefox finally pass it, the recently released version 3?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did Firefox finally pass it, the recently released version 3?</p>
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		<title>By: mhr</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071220/ie8-acid2-test/comment-page-1/#comment-45421</link>
		<dc:creator>mhr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quote:
It’s one thing for Firefox, Safari and Opera to pass the ACID2 test, but it’s another for the default browser of the most widely used consumer operating system to support it too. And not only is it a web browser, the rendering engine is used in thousands of third-party applications to draw interface elements.

Firefox and safari does not pass acid test fully
only opera and konqueror (now ie8)</description>
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It’s one thing for Firefox, Safari and Opera to pass the ACID2 test, but it’s another for the default browser of the most widely used consumer operating system to support it too. And not only is it a web browser, the rendering engine is used in thousands of third-party applications to draw interface elements.</p>
<p>Firefox and safari does not pass acid test fully<br />
only opera and konqueror (now ie8)</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071220/ie8-acid2-test/comment-page-1/#comment-45124</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look here: http://vasudevg.blogspot.com/2007/12/internet-explorer-8-q.html. Most of it is useless but they&#039;re saying IE8 is going to have an &quot;opt-in&quot; IE8 standards mode (besides the normal standards mode and quirks mode). More testing hell for developers which they were already ranting about on the IE blog. Guess, it&#039;s better in the long run, otherwise they couldn&#039;t bring IE up-to-date without breaking the web. They&#039;ve also got a UI question, so probably they&#039;ll fix IE7&#039;s UI problems. In the last question, they don&#039;t even acknowledge Opera which is the most standards-compliant browser today. Given MS&#039;s slow pace of IE releases, I&#039;m guessing IE8 won&#039;t come till 2009.

Firefox 3.0 FTW for its addons!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look here: <a href="http://vasudevg.blogspot.com/2007/12/internet-explorer-8-q.html" rel="nofollow">http://vasudevg.blogspot.com/2007/12/internet-explorer-8-q.html</a>. Most of it is useless but they&#8217;re saying IE8 is going to have an &#8220;opt-in&#8221; IE8 standards mode (besides the normal standards mode and quirks mode). More testing hell for developers which they were already ranting about on the IE blog. Guess, it&#8217;s better in the long run, otherwise they couldn&#8217;t bring IE up-to-date without breaking the web. They&#8217;ve also got a UI question, so probably they&#8217;ll fix IE7&#8217;s UI problems. In the last question, they don&#8217;t even acknowledge Opera which is the most standards-compliant browser today. Given MS&#8217;s slow pace of IE releases, I&#8217;m guessing IE8 won&#8217;t come till 2009.</p>
<p>Firefox 3.0 FTW for its addons!!</p>
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		<title>By: Internet Explorer 8 at Wiggler</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071220/ie8-acid2-test/comment-page-1/#comment-44720</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Explorer 8 at Wiggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] λοιπόν τις χαμογελαστές φατσούλες του Acid2 test και την ανακούφιση των απανταχού web designer πως επιτέλους [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] λοιπόν τις χαμογελαστές φατσούλες του Acid2 test και την ανακούφιση των απανταχού web designer πως επιτέλους [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RC</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071220/ie8-acid2-test/comment-page-1/#comment-44623</link>
		<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From their channel 9 interview, I got the impression that is more than simply passing Acid2.  What the IE team has to handle is all those sites that expect IE to view them as if it&#039;s IE 5, 6, or 7...in addition to sites that code to some ideal standards vision.  In other words, it would have been one thing to code a browser to render the Acid2 correctly, but that IE8 did so within code that also took into account all those other issues (added difficulty).  Is this correct?

I guess my question is why is it so important for the IE to account for these past issues when presumably other browswers don&#039;t?  Is it because while there&#039;s a segment that will ignore problems with sites that require IE and use Firefox or Opera, etc. that there&#039;s also a segment that will stick with IE for the exact same reason?  Corporate users with intranet sites or something?  If anyone can comment on that, I&#039;d appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From their channel 9 interview, I got the impression that is more than simply passing Acid2.  What the IE team has to handle is all those sites that expect IE to view them as if it&#8217;s IE 5, 6, or 7&#8230;in addition to sites that code to some ideal standards vision.  In other words, it would have been one thing to code a browser to render the Acid2 correctly, but that IE8 did so within code that also took into account all those other issues (added difficulty).  Is this correct?</p>
<p>I guess my question is why is it so important for the IE to account for these past issues when presumably other browswers don&#8217;t?  Is it because while there&#8217;s a segment that will ignore problems with sites that require IE and use Firefox or Opera, etc. that there&#8217;s also a segment that will stick with IE for the exact same reason?  Corporate users with intranet sites or something?  If anyone can comment on that, I&#8217;d appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: tino</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071220/ie8-acid2-test/comment-page-1/#comment-44609</link>
		<dc:creator>tino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, so I was right saying on your last IE post, that they will talk about IE8 when it is standards-compliant (more or less). ;) Good news for web devs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, so I was right saying on your last IE post, that they will talk about IE8 when it is standards-compliant (more or less). <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Good news for web devs!</p>
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		<title>By: [iss] Internet Explorer 8 passes the Acid2 mark - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071220/ie8-acid2-test/comment-page-1/#comment-44599</link>
		<dc:creator>[iss] Internet Explorer 8 passes the Acid2 mark - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] should work on any browser and any platform without a single hack. Wouldn&#8217;t that be nice.    (Source)    __________________ &quot;I only wrote that poem to test my printer.&quot; ~ Lrrr, Futurama [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] should work on any browser and any platform without a single hack. Wouldn&#8217;t that be nice.    (Source)    __________________ &quot;I only wrote that poem to test my printer.&quot; ~ Lrrr, Futurama [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Raiker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cant wait for MIX to see what alse will IE team demonstrate. All this stuff with standards is cool, but it would be nice to enjoy preview release with new end-user features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cant wait for MIX to see what alse will IE team demonstrate. All this stuff with standards is cool, but it would be nice to enjoy preview release with new end-user features.</p>
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