Comments on: Scoble: “Fingerprints of Sinofsky all over it”

By: Guruparan

Guruparan — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:01:13 +0000

Apple is good & successfull alike Google…that doesnt mean that Microsoft isnt innovating enough..Vista is good..but unfortunately some of the info showed in PDC didnt comeup well…some features came very good..some didnt make it.

Longhorn features where shown over even before the base functional framework fully built..
Obviously this time, Microsoft wont be *that* much transparent, either in Zune, or next version of Windows mobile, Live, office or even xbox & the Windows 7..they wont let us any major features or UI or functionality until few months before its in beta or RTM.

By: Cullen

Cullen — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:14:22 +0000

@I work there
Didn’t mean to be rude or anything. I am assuming you were talking about Valentine (was he a VP?) leaving. Wasn’t that somewhere between august and october? Or is there another VP that I am not thinking of?

By: I work there

I work there — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:59:15 +0000

@Cullen — Windows Vista shipped in Nov 06 and was released to the public in Jan 07. Reoging in Feb 07 was done. Another reorg based on a VP leaving is not something that happens predictbly. But then again you know lots so what could I share with you…
>>group hug<<

By: Cullen

Cullen — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:27:26 +0000

@Sinofsky (if you’re reading this):
It seems like you have been taking allot of flack. Everyone blames Microsoft’s lack of transparency in Windows on you, why have you put up with it for so long? Why don’t you let the person who is actuall building the brick walls tell us why they are doing what they are? Why should YOU have to take the beating from the online community when it isn’t you making these poor disclosure decissions? Just my .02

By: Long Zheng

Long Zheng — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:29:40 +0000

@Robert Scoble: Thanks for the update. Maybe he should email me and tell me who

By: Robert Scoble

Robert Scoble — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:18:08 +0000

Steven emailed me after this article came out and told me that he isn’t in charge of the disclosure position, nor is he in charge of the communication goals, etc.

So, I tagged his name to something that someone else is driving. Will do more homework on this and get back to you.

Sorry to Sinofsky for giving him credit.

By: Cullen

Cullen — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:35:07 +0000

@I work there
it kind of has come out that the company has been reorged to a certain degree. It is kind of a known fact that after each OS you guys reorg…

By: I work there

I work there — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:31:19 +0000

Iteresting to see how people who do not work at Microsoft have a vision of who things there work. Scoble’s comments are even more interesting how much he thinks he knows about the company after what, only working there a few years.

Amazing for people who watch the company and claim it hard to keep a secret no one has blogged about the reorg that started a few months back. PR should dribble out next week.

By: Mario

Mario — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:00:07 +0000

@Long:
That’s why I added the second comment; so I agree with most of what you said in response. But for sure, Microsoft needs to certainly promise less (publicly at least). For example, Office 2007 didn’t need much hype and all that hoopla Longhorn was getting. It was the fact that the new UI stayed pretty much under wraps until it was ready for launch that made it a huge success (in terms of being innovative and such; getting good press = “cooler” product). I understand Windows needs all of the communication with developers and hardware partners (like I said in my third comment), but Microsoft needs to promise less because if the high internal goals (which are good to have) are made public, people will expect a lot, and if something unplanned occurs (like what did with Vista), then it’s a huge disappointment and the product already starts with bad press.

By: Andre Da Costa

Andre Da Costa — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:29:45 +0000

@Long: Windows on the other hand, for it to even work, needs the most basic drivers to support millions of devices. Plus, programmers also need to plan out their release cycles and what sort of new innovation they should and can build into their products for the next releases of Windows.

And thats why we have WinHEC and PDC ’08, you are acting like Microsoft have never held such shows in the past. These are the same shows Microsoft utilizes to inform the industry and partners about upcoming technologies. With the next client release not expected until late ’09 or sometime in 2010, its more than ample time to get developers ready. Longhorn pre-beta 1 build 5048 was distributed to hardware developers at WinHEC 2005 to start preparing their device drivers followed by the subsequent Beta 1 and Beta 2 releases.

Long, Microsoft is always having an ongoing relationship with hardware partners and they are constantly working together to define future technologies and standards, so you don’t need to make it sound like Microsoft is gonna drop a bomb on them at the last minute. Long, again, another piece looking for Windows 7.