Comments on: Unwelcomed to the social http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/ All the stuff about Microsoft and technology you haven't read anywhere else. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:56:09 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: dwright http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41369 dwright Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:59:34 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41369 I recall reading a while back that there were legal issues with launching Zune in Canada, so I'd imagine the same would go with Zune in other countries. The problem was the music sharing - the major feature of the Zune. I could be wrong, though. Here's the article: http://www.cliczune.com/2006/11/exclusive_zune_.html Personally, I'd love to pick up a Zune 80, but I've recently gone exclusively MacBook. Don't hate me! :) If anything, that Jailbreak should open it up to be used on Linux and Mac in the US, too. I recall reading a while back that there were legal issues with launching Zune in Canada, so I’d imagine the same would go with Zune in other countries. The problem was the music sharing – the major feature of the Zune. I could be wrong, though.

Here’s the article:
http://www.cliczune.com/2006/11/exclusive_zune_.html

Personally, I’d love to pick up a Zune 80, but I’ve recently gone exclusively MacBook. Don’t hate me! :)

If anything, that Jailbreak should open it up to be used on Linux and Mac in the US, too.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41280 Kevin Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:18:44 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41280 All I have to say is that Microsoft is going to get its as# kicked in 2008, 2009, and 2010 by the likes of Apple and Google. Both will upstage their products over and over again and Microsoft will find itself hounded even in the console, OS, office suite, and server markets. That said, the new Zunes look pretty decent and I might pick one up. All I have to say is that Microsoft is going to get its as# kicked in 2008, 2009, and 2010 by the likes of Apple and Google. Both will upstage their products over and over again and Microsoft will find itself hounded even in the console, OS, office suite, and server markets.

That said, the new Zunes look pretty decent and I might pick one up.

]]> By: ikyouCrow http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41276 ikyouCrow Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:21:10 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41276 i've been using the Zune 30 since launch and i plan to get a Zune 80 when it finally comes out. i live in Trinidad and i've bought music via the Zune Marketplace. no problems, no hassles. i honestly don't know what's keeping them from expanding the base to outside US. the device can already do localization. is this really just a packaging issue? i’ve been using the Zune 30 since launch and i plan to get a Zune 80 when it finally comes out. i live in Trinidad and i’ve bought music via the Zune Marketplace. no problems, no hassles.

i honestly don’t know what’s keeping them from expanding the base to outside US. the device can already do localization. is this really just a packaging issue?

]]> By: anonymous http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41239 anonymous Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:59:59 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41239 zune will never beat the ipod unless it gets in thwe ipod markiets. the ipod is widely sold in the middle east and far east. unless microsoft gets a grip on dubai markets and KSA market and japa/korea/china it will never beat the ipod or over sell it. the should get the price as low as $120 at least for the people to adopt it's new toy. i won't buy a zune nor an ipod which costs $350. way too pricy for me. i can get a new mobile phone wi\gich costs whis much with all the options of an ipod + a 2 gb memory. that is the truth, and i think a lot of people think this way. zune will never beat the ipod unless it gets in thwe ipod markiets.
the ipod is widely sold in the middle east and far east. unless microsoft gets a grip on dubai markets and KSA market and japa/korea/china it will never beat the ipod or over sell it.
the should get the price as low as $120 at least for the people to adopt it’s new toy. i won’t buy a zune nor an ipod which costs $350. way too pricy for me. i can get a new mobile phone wi\gich costs whis much with all the options of an ipod + a 2 gb memory.
that is the truth, and i think a lot of people think this way.

]]> By: Fowl http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41236 Fowl Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:19:27 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41236 I have the same compliant about Xbox Live Market place... Have you seen the content available in the US?! See also this techcrunch rant on a similar issue for TV: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/combating-piracy-earth-to-big-tv/ I have the same compliant about Xbox Live Market place… Have you seen the content available in the US?!

See also this techcrunch rant on a similar issue for TV: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/combating-piracy-earth-to-big-tv/

]]> By: random http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41227 random Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:33:39 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41227 zune will never be an ipod killer! zune will never be an ipod killer!

]]> By: Nick Mallory http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41225 Nick Mallory Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:51:08 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41225 Tired of politicians never listening to your opinions? The Australian Government is thinking about setting up a forum/blog to allow the public to discuss policy and legislation. Have your say on what form that forum should take here. http://www.openforum.com.au/Survey Yes, it's genuine. Tired of politicians never listening to your opinions?

The Australian Government is thinking about setting up a forum/blog to allow the public to discuss policy and legislation.

Have your say on what form that forum should take here.

http://www.openforum.com.au/Survey

Yes, it’s genuine.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41224 Jonathan Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:04:31 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41224 I think you are letting your emotion get the best of you. Microsoft could just release the Zune everywhere but it would entail a lot to get it right. If they didn't get it right it would just hurt their name or give people a different impression of the product. The whole point of the Zune is to provide a seamless and cohesive experience. You said they don't provide support in other countries. To do this they actually need to set up a comprehensive system to cover this efficiently. They say they can not guarantee support because they just don't have reliable support there yet, not because they don't like other countries. You sound as if they are doing this to hurt you or to deny you something, when they are actually try to do the exact opposite. The Zune team I'm sure is still not that big or strong yet; just like all other digital audio companies Microsoft is releasing the Zune in their main market first. Unlike other companies though Microsoft has more to do since they are building software and an online store. I think you are letting your emotion get the best of you. Microsoft could just release the Zune everywhere but it would entail a lot to get it right. If they didn’t get it right it would just hurt their name or give people a different impression of the product. The whole point of the Zune is to provide a seamless and cohesive experience. You said they don’t provide support in other countries. To do this they actually need to set up a comprehensive system to cover this efficiently. They say they can not guarantee support because they just don’t have reliable support there yet, not because they don’t like other countries. You sound as if they are doing this to hurt you or to deny you something, when they are actually try to do the exact opposite. The Zune team I’m sure is still not that big or strong yet; just like all other digital audio companies Microsoft is releasing the Zune in their main market first. Unlike other companies though Microsoft has more to do since they are building software and an online store.

]]> By: Jono http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41221 Jono Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:26:11 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41221 I think <a href="#comment-41190" rel="nofollow">tino</a> has it - Microsoft can't make a profit off of the hardware because they are sold for far less than they are worth - just like the XBox. In the XBox's case, Microsoft can make plenty of money off of selling games. But if they don't have their own store here, they can't sell music here, and they can't make a profit here. Basically if they started selling Zunes here without the store, they'd be making a loss. I think tino has it – Microsoft can’t make a profit off of the hardware because they are sold for far less than they are worth – just like the XBox. In the XBox’s case, Microsoft can make plenty of money off of selling games. But if they don’t have their own store here, they can’t sell music here, and they can’t make a profit here.

Basically if they started selling Zunes here without the store, they’d be making a loss.

]]> By: Jason Cartwright http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41216 Jason Cartwright Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:44:16 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20071103/unwelcomed-to-the-social/#comment-41216 "My next alternative is an iPod Touch" - I did just that. After not wanting 2 buy into Apple's largely DRM'd ecosystem, I went in search of alteratives. There were none. None that could compete on the same scale of music library, podcast integration and hardware device, an end-to-end solution. Enter Microsoft + Zune. After hearing the Zune Marketplace was much improved to co-inside with the Zune 2 launch, I installed the app to check it out, only to be met with a "Zune store is not available in your region" message. So I ended up bitting the bullet and bought an iPod Touch. “My next alternative is an iPod Touch” – I did just that. After not wanting 2 buy into Apple’s largely DRM’d ecosystem, I went in search of alteratives. There were none. None that could compete on the same scale of music library, podcast integration and hardware device, an end-to-end solution.

Enter Microsoft + Zune.

After hearing the Zune Marketplace was much improved to co-inside with the Zune 2 launch, I installed the app to check it out, only to be met with a “Zune store is not available in your region” message.

So I ended up bitting the bullet and bought an iPod Touch.

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