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		<title>By: Philippe</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070613/apple-leopard-world-war-3/#comment-40468</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day, what most end users want is a plug and play personal computer. you switch it on and do what you have to do. with a Mac you can, with a PC you cant.
end of it. I used PC&#039;s for over 15 years until 2005 when i had enough of getting blue screens, drivers updates for this or that, DLL missing or corrupted for whatever reasons, security update for this or that, virus infiltration unless you got 10 anti-virus installed constantly scanning while you browse the net, anti-virus update for this or that.. and so on and so on... in the end i was spending more time fixing and maintening the OS than actually been productive. 2005 I threw the PC out of the window and cashed on a Powermac. I will never go back to PC again. Unless you spend you time coding don&#039;t bother with a PC. Get a Mac and start using your time for doing the things you really want with an OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day, what most end users want is a plug and play personal computer. you switch it on and do what you have to do. with a Mac you can, with a PC you cant.<br />
end of it. I used PC&#8217;s for over 15 years until 2005 when i had enough of getting blue screens, drivers updates for this or that, DLL missing or corrupted for whatever reasons, security update for this or that, virus infiltration unless you got 10 anti-virus installed constantly scanning while you browse the net, anti-virus update for this or that.. and so on and so on&#8230; in the end i was spending more time fixing and maintening the OS than actually been productive. 2005 I threw the PC out of the window and cashed on a Powermac. I will never go back to PC again. Unless you spend you time coding don&#8217;t bother with a PC. Get a Mac and start using your time for doing the things you really want with an OS.</p>
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		<title>By: Ma quel desktop l&#8217;ho già visto da qualche parte&#8230; - BlogVista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ma quel desktop l&#8217;ho già visto da qualche parte&#8230; - BlogVista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monkfish Bandana</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070613/apple-leopard-world-war-3/#comment-35798</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkfish Bandana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The way I see it, if OS X and Windows didn’t both exist then the one that did would suck.&quot;

@Christopher Hawkins

I wouldn&#039;t go as far to say that they would suck, but there would certainly be less motivation for innovation, and in that respect I completely agree with you.

On another subject, it&#039;s sad how &quot;fanboys&quot; have turned out; resulting in flaming in forums everywhere. I prefer Apple&#039;s OSX for its stability, but as-is its compatibility is poor. I prefer Windows for its compatibility and ease of installation of new software, but its stability is poor. I prefer Linux for its ease-of-use, but not for its ease-of-installation (which unless you are dealing with Debian packages is non-existant).

As Tom stated, a computer is a tool and not a toy; that doesn&#039;t, however, mean it should be a chore to operate. And in agreement with him, it&#039;s funny how people resort to 2 or 3 OSs to do their work. It&#039;s a shame that through all of this arguing, the programmers and development teams are not addressing this problem.

And finally, as Jonathan quite rightly said, fanboys should be subjected to a year of their least favourite OS. I hated Linux, but grew to like it. I sometimes liked and sometimes despised Windows, and now I can tolerate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The way I see it, if OS X and Windows didn’t both exist then the one that did would suck.&#8221;</p>
<p>@Christopher Hawkins</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go as far to say that they would suck, but there would certainly be less motivation for innovation, and in that respect I completely agree with you.</p>
<p>On another subject, it&#8217;s sad how &#8220;fanboys&#8221; have turned out; resulting in flaming in forums everywhere. I prefer Apple&#8217;s OSX for its stability, but as-is its compatibility is poor. I prefer Windows for its compatibility and ease of installation of new software, but its stability is poor. I prefer Linux for its ease-of-use, but not for its ease-of-installation (which unless you are dealing with Debian packages is non-existant).</p>
<p>As Tom stated, a computer is a tool and not a toy; that doesn&#8217;t, however, mean it should be a chore to operate. And in agreement with him, it&#8217;s funny how people resort to 2 or 3 OSs to do their work. It&#8217;s a shame that through all of this arguing, the programmers and development teams are not addressing this problem.</p>
<p>And finally, as Jonathan quite rightly said, fanboys should be subjected to a year of their least favourite OS. I hated Linux, but grew to like it. I sometimes liked and sometimes despised Windows, and now I can tolerate it.</p>
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		<title>By: System User</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070613/apple-leopard-world-war-3/#comment-31973</link>
		<dc:creator>System User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who copied who in Apple/Mac and Windows/PC is not an issue. Both are merely copying things developed years ago under UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems running X Windows. Both, to me, look like variations on the Enlightenment Window manager with a lot of bits from GNUstep.

For a PC, you can install any BSD variant. For a Mac, drop Aqua and install an X11 server and a decent, contemporary window manager. OSX is already a BSD variant.

http://www.bsd.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
http://www.x.org/
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/x11/
http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~eoster/osxx11/

and to see where both companies got the ideas for widgets and gadgets and whatever:

http://www.gnustep.org/

and here is a window manager that will blow your mind if you are at all impressed by Vista or Leopard&#039;s Aqua:

http://www.enlightenment.org/

for an overview of window managers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_manager

Free your computer. Free your imagination. Free your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who copied who in Apple/Mac and Windows/PC is not an issue. Both are merely copying things developed years ago under UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems running X Windows. Both, to me, look like variations on the Enlightenment Window manager with a lot of bits from GNUstep.</p>
<p>For a PC, you can install any BSD variant. For a Mac, drop Aqua and install an X11 server and a decent, contemporary window manager. OSX is already a BSD variant.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bsd.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bsd.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System</a><br />
<a href="http://www.x.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.x.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/x11/" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/x11/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~eoster/osxx11/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~eoster/osxx11/</a></p>
<p>and to see where both companies got the ideas for widgets and gadgets and whatever:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnustep.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnustep.org/</a></p>
<p>and here is a window manager that will blow your mind if you are at all impressed by Vista or Leopard&#8217;s Aqua:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.enlightenment.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.enlightenment.org/</a></p>
<p>for an overview of window managers:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_manager" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_manager</a></p>
<p>Free your computer. Free your imagination. Free your mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Ma quel desktop l’ho già visto da qualche parte… &#171; Blog of World&#8217;s Sanyi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ma quel desktop l’ho già visto da qualche parte… &#171; Blog of World&#8217;s Sanyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Josh's Windows Weblog : Weekly Roundup 6-15-2007</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070613/apple-leopard-world-war-3/#comment-31264</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh's Windows Weblog : Weekly Roundup 6-15-2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 02:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oh and that Apple&#160;WWDC thing this week that&#160;generated millions of page views and was basically a non-event. I still want a wide screen iPod, anyone? The leopard features were eerily similar to many of those already found in Windows Vista.&#160; Mary Jo caught the fury of the Apple fan boys for point this out.&#160; Man they are a vocal bunch and can get a little nasty.&#160; Good thing she has thick skin. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oh and that Apple&nbsp;WWDC thing this week that&nbsp;generated millions of page views and was basically a non-event. I still want a wide screen iPod, anyone? The leopard features were eerily similar to many of those already found in Windows Vista.&nbsp; Mary Jo caught the fury of the Apple fan boys for point this out.&nbsp; Man they are a vocal bunch and can get a little nasty.&nbsp; Good thing she has thick skin. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Electronic Punk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Electronic Punk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was apple that said Leopard was Vista 2.0 wasn&#039;t it? :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was apple that said Leopard was Vista 2.0 wasn&#8217;t it? :p</p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though i am a keen supporter with Microsoft products, I&#039;ve never actually seen the whole point betweent he PC vs Mac wars. I think both products do a great job at what they were designed for. 
I equally love Apple products, their hardware as well as their software, but when both sides of the community argue against who&#039;s better, it gets silly. I remember with last year&#039;s WWDC, the witty banners they had &quot;Redmond, start your photocopiers&quot;, witty, funny, but not necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though i am a keen supporter with Microsoft products, I&#8217;ve never actually seen the whole point betweent he PC vs Mac wars. I think both products do a great job at what they were designed for.<br />
I equally love Apple products, their hardware as well as their software, but when both sides of the community argue against who&#8217;s better, it gets silly. I remember with last year&#8217;s WWDC, the witty banners they had &#8220;Redmond, start your photocopiers&#8221;, witty, funny, but not necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last comments in this regard:

1) There is no real innovation in OS development today.
I agree with LH: It would appear that most of what both Apple and Microsoft are selling as oh so revolutionary upgrades to their respective OS are nothing more than fine tuned versions of their previous incarnations. The only real compelling reason to upgrade is because your new computer will have it pre-installed... Cred to Apple for &quot;only&quot; charging US$129 for the upgrade... I&#039;ll be sticking with XP for the time being (already have Vista purchased but only installed on a test machine) just don&#039;t need any of that new eye candy to get my work done.

2) Technology journalism by enlarge is mediocre these days.
Looks like most journalists these days don&#039;t base their comments on well informed facts but rather clueless ramblings. Any they wonder why blogging is killing their profession? Should they be abused for doing a bad job? Probably not... pointed out or even better ignored? Absolutely!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My last comments in this regard:</p>
<p>1) There is no real innovation in OS development today.<br />
I agree with LH: It would appear that most of what both Apple and Microsoft are selling as oh so revolutionary upgrades to their respective OS are nothing more than fine tuned versions of their previous incarnations. The only real compelling reason to upgrade is because your new computer will have it pre-installed&#8230; Cred to Apple for &#8220;only&#8221; charging US$129 for the upgrade&#8230; I&#8217;ll be sticking with XP for the time being (already have Vista purchased but only installed on a test machine) just don&#8217;t need any of that new eye candy to get my work done.</p>
<p>2) Technology journalism by enlarge is mediocre these days.<br />
Looks like most journalists these days don&#8217;t base their comments on well informed facts but rather clueless ramblings. Any they wonder why blogging is killing their profession? Should they be abused for doing a bad job? Probably not&#8230; pointed out or even better ignored? Absolutely!!!</p>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
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		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 05:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan:

Dude, I completely agree. People are starting to treat operating systems like they are deities. (I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a joke about &quot;worshipping false idols&quot; in there someplace.)

Make the fanboys/girls of all systems use the competing OS for a year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan:</p>
<p>Dude, I completely agree. People are starting to treat operating systems like they are deities. (I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a joke about &#8220;worshipping false idols&#8221; in there someplace.)</p>
<p>Make the fanboys/girls of all systems use the competing OS for a year!</p>
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