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	<title>Comments on: Institutionalized parking</title>
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		<title>By: Toronto parking permits</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-44137</link>
		<dc:creator>Toronto parking permits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope our society will not enact such things as a park-as-you-learn system :) I read a lot of blogs about all kind of things and most of them are about how everything is getting far too expensive, (as you said the education, the fuel, the electricity, the food,  etc.) I&#039;ve made a web page about  Toronto parking permits&lt;/a&gt; because it was getting out of hand even there as well. Let&#039;s just hope it will change it the long run but as long as inflation is in the cards it will always be a good excuse to put the prices higher and higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope our society will not enact such things as a park-as-you-learn system <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I read a lot of blogs about all kind of things and most of them are about how everything is getting far too expensive, (as you said the education, the fuel, the electricity, the food,  etc.) I&#8217;ve made a web page about  Toronto parking permits because it was getting out of hand even there as well. Let&#8217;s just hope it will change it the long run but as long as inflation is in the cards it will always be a good excuse to put the prices higher and higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-20418</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see someone else (with a much more popular blog :-) ) get on to this. 

I blogged about this when the first announcement came out last month at:
http://driveactivated.com/blog/archive/2007/01/30/uni-parking-permit-rip-off.aspx

They seemed to have upped the daily rate too, from 3 to 5 bucks (http://www.adm.monash.edu.au/facserv/Hm-ServDel/parking/sd-parking-met-or-free.html).

It just seems like they&#039;ve always wanted to do this, and now they have the perfect reason - VSU. Let&#039;s see what else they&#039;ve come up with...

P.S. Interesting to see the rates being compared overseas - personally, I know we had it cheap before, but the timing and the massive hike is what annoys me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see someone else (with a much more popular blog <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) get on to this. </p>
<p>I blogged about this when the first announcement came out last month at:<br />
<a href="http://driveactivated.com/blog/archive/2007/01/30/uni-parking-permit-rip-off.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://driveactivated.com/blog/archive/2007/01/30/uni-parking-permit-r ip-off.aspx</a></p>
<p>They seemed to have upped the daily rate too, from 3 to 5 bucks (<a href="http://www.adm.monash.edu.au/facserv/Hm-ServDel/parking/sd-parking-met-or-free.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.adm.monash.edu.au/facserv/Hm-ServDel/parking/sd-parking-me t-or-free.html</a>).</p>
<p>It just seems like they&#8217;ve always wanted to do this, and now they have the perfect reason &#8211; VSU. Let&#8217;s see what else they&#8217;ve come up with&#8230;</p>
<p>P.S. Interesting to see the rates being compared overseas &#8211; personally, I know we had it cheap before, but the timing and the massive hike is what annoys me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lynch</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-20372</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>York University (Toronto) currently charges $100CDN per MONTH, with annual price increases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>York University (Toronto) currently charges $100CDN per MONTH, with annual price increases.</p>
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		<title>By: MIckey</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-20348</link>
		<dc:creator>MIckey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paid campus parking is not unusual. Usually it starts with the faculty and staff then runs down to the student where it is incorporated into your student card fees.  The comparator is fees that are charges elsewhere in the city are usually a little lower thus they say it is fair. Visitors will get metered parking. In theory it goes back into the parking lot for lights maintenance etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paid campus parking is not unusual. Usually it starts with the faculty and staff then runs down to the student where it is incorporated into your student card fees.  The comparator is fees that are charges elsewhere in the city are usually a little lower thus they say it is fair. Visitors will get metered parking. In theory it goes back into the parking lot for lights maintenance etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-20346</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something similar happened at the University of Washington, Bothell Campus as well.  For the past several years, parking has been $1 a day, or about $32 for a full quarter of unlimited parking.  This year, they raised the price to $2 a day, or about $65 for the full year pass.  They also added partial week passes, like Monday &amp; Wednesday pass.  Like others, this doesn&#039;t guarantee us a spot, just lets us park without paying.

We did get a small benefit from the raise in the rates.  They installed new pay stations that finally accept credit/debit cards.  The price hike wasn&#039;t enough to get me to stop driving either, due to my schedule.  I think parking would have to hit around $100 a quarter to get people to change their driving habits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something similar happened at the University of Washington, Bothell Campus as well.  For the past several years, parking has been $1 a day, or about $32 for a full quarter of unlimited parking.  This year, they raised the price to $2 a day, or about $65 for the full year pass.  They also added partial week passes, like Monday &amp; Wednesday pass.  Like others, this doesn&#8217;t guarantee us a spot, just lets us park without paying.</p>
<p>We did get a small benefit from the raise in the rates.  They installed new pay stations that finally accept credit/debit cards.  The price hike wasn&#8217;t enough to get me to stop driving either, due to my schedule.  I think parking would have to hit around $100 a quarter to get people to change their driving habits.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-20345</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally understand!  They have increased parking on campus by building a huge structure but they still fine people like crazy.  On our campus permits cost close to $300 US.  Suffice to say since I need to program very very very late on campus and buses don&#039;t run this late I end up having to walk 1.5 miles home.  I hate these money grubbing universities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally understand!  They have increased parking on campus by building a huge structure but they still fine people like crazy.  On our campus permits cost close to $300 US.  Suffice to say since I need to program very very very late on campus and buses don&#8217;t run this late I end up having to walk 1.5 miles home.  I hate these money grubbing universities.</p>
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		<title>By: Keff</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-20342</link>
		<dc:creator>Keff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you split a finite size car into infinite pieces and reassemble after lessons (left as an exercise for reader), you can park not only freely, but also unnoticably even on full parking place :)).
Hell, you can even double your car if you do it cleverly (I heard it with a proof on a mathematical analysis lecture) :)).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you split a finite size car into infinite pieces and reassemble after lessons (left as an exercise for reader), you can park not only freely, but also unnoticably even on full parking place <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).<br />
Hell, you can even double your car if you do it cleverly (I heard it with a proof on a mathematical analysis lecture) <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-20339</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All part of trying to make up for the lost funds through the move to voluntary student union fees, isn&#039;t it? The same is on at other Monash campuses, and no doubt other universities throughout AU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All part of trying to make up for the lost funds through the move to voluntary student union fees, isn&#8217;t it? The same is on at other Monash campuses, and no doubt other universities throughout AU.</p>
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		<title>By: Fire</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-20331</link>
		<dc:creator>Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$150 US here for a year. And you don&#039;t even get guaranteed parking. Through some complex formula involving triple integrals, the school calculates that it can give out more permits than it has spaces, simply because people have classes at different times of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$150 US here for a year. And you don&#8217;t even get guaranteed parking. Through some complex formula involving triple integrals, the school calculates that it can give out more permits than it has spaces, simply because people have classes at different times of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Zim</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070212/monash-uni-parking/#comment-20330</link>
		<dc:creator>Zim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This world is incredible.
And talking about incredible things, have you read about this new MS patent?
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37568
If MS starts with something like this, I&#039;ll move to Linux for sure. No one is going to block my computer without my permission...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This world is incredible.<br />
And talking about incredible things, have you read about this new MS patent?<br />
<a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37568" rel="nofollow">http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37568</a><br />
If MS starts with something like this, I&#8217;ll move to Linux for sure. No one is going to block my computer without my permission&#8230;</p>
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