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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-6170</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 22:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Long, can u give me a email or something, liveside is about to turn 2.1, and the theme is going to be updated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Long, can u give me a email or something, liveside is about to turn 2.1, and the theme is going to be updated.</p>
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		<title>By: JosephCooney</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-3419</link>
		<dc:creator>JosephCooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what all those sites need? More brown! It&#039;s the new black I tells ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what all those sites need? More brown! It&#8217;s the new black I tells ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Emexci</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-3140</link>
		<dc:creator>Emexci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Long Zheng

Thanks mann</description>
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<p>Thanks mann</p>
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		<title>By: Long Zheng</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-3129</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Zheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kip Kniskern: I didn&#039;t squash your logo :P

@Rowan: It&#039;s the curves you see on all Windows Live branded website headers.

@Adam Kinney: I forgot about On10, but it looks great. Added! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kip Kniskern: I didn&#8217;t squash your logo <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Rowan: It&#8217;s the curves you see on all Windows Live branded website headers.</p>
<p>@Adam Kinney: I forgot about On10, but it looks great. Added! <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Flarey Wallpapers at istartedsomething</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-3128</link>
		<dc:creator>Flarey Wallpapers at istartedsomething</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Who is Long Zheng?           &#171; Why are thou enthusiast communities so ugly? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adam Kinney</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-3126</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Kinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I&#039;m disappointed on10.net didn&#039;t get at least honorable mention, but that&#039;s ok I think it still needs some work as well.  Its all about finding the time for design cycles.

I have been able to spend time lately on the Channel9 redesign and I&#039;m looking forward to releasing those screenshots soon.

I agree LiveSide should avoid the Vista wash, though, to distinguish their independance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I&#8217;m disappointed on10.net didn&#8217;t get at least honorable mention, but that&#8217;s ok I think it still needs some work as well.  Its all about finding the time for design cycles.</p>
<p>I have been able to spend time lately on the Channel9 redesign and I&#8217;m looking forward to releasing those screenshots soon.</p>
<p>I agree LiveSide should avoid the Vista wash, though, to distinguish their independance.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-3119</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this &quot;flare&quot; business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this &#8220;flare&#8221; business?</p>
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		<title>By: Kip Kniskern</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-3116</link>
		<dc:creator>Kip Kniskern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, thanks for the attention, it&#039;s much appreciated. Harrison commented on the copyright issues facing a design such as yours, and it goes beyond that.  Not only do we not want to get sued or taken down, we also want to make it clear that we are not affiliated with Microsoft or Windows Live.  We are an independent site, and want to make it clear through our (admittedly not very Web 2.0) design as well as our content.  Which brings us to the second point, that none of us being web design professionals (except for Nick, who we contracted to do some work for us, mostly with migration from our earlier site - we think he did a great job), we have chosen to focus on content first and bells and whistles later.  We spent a lot of time migrating, we all do this in addition to our real jobs and schoolwork, and we&#039;re looking forward to continuing to improve.

ps I kind of like our logo - especially when you don&#039;t squash it. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thanks for the attention, it&#8217;s much appreciated. Harrison commented on the copyright issues facing a design such as yours, and it goes beyond that.  Not only do we not want to get sued or taken down, we also want to make it clear that we are not affiliated with Microsoft or Windows Live.  We are an independent site, and want to make it clear through our (admittedly not very Web 2.0) design as well as our content.  Which brings us to the second point, that none of us being web design professionals (except for Nick, who we contracted to do some work for us, mostly with migration from our earlier site &#8211; we think he did a great job), we have chosen to focus on content first and bells and whistles later.  We spent a lot of time migrating, we all do this in addition to our real jobs and schoolwork, and we&#8217;re looking forward to continuing to improve.</p>
<p>ps I kind of like our logo &#8211; especially when you don&#8217;t squash it. <img src='http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Long Zheng</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-3114</link>
		<dc:creator>Long Zheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Harrison Hoffman: Thanks for the reply. I had a lot of thought about the flare and copyright issue. One of the reasons I went with a greenish tint was because I didn&#039;t want people to think this was an official Live page, which is usually blue. The flare on the other hand, I didn&#039;t think Microsoft trademarked. Since if they did, I&#039;m sure Apple would have sued them right out of the water. Everything is copyrighted, but these flare are not the same flare used in Live.

I&#039;m glad you&#039;re already developing on something, and I look forward to it.

@Emexci: The font is Segeo, one of the new Windows Vista fonts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Harrison Hoffman: Thanks for the reply. I had a lot of thought about the flare and copyright issue. One of the reasons I went with a greenish tint was because I didn&#8217;t want people to think this was an official Live page, which is usually blue. The flare on the other hand, I didn&#8217;t think Microsoft trademarked. Since if they did, I&#8217;m sure Apple would have sued them right out of the water. Everything is copyrighted, but these flare are not the same flare used in Live.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re already developing on something, and I look forward to it.</p>
<p>@Emexci: The font is Segeo, one of the new Windows Vista fonts.</p>
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		<title>By: Emexci</title>
		<link>http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061014/ms-community-ugly/#comment-3109</link>
		<dc:creator>Emexci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the font name of these logo ? it&#039;s realy good.

&amp; nice work mann!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the font name of these logo ? it&#8217;s realy good.</p>
<p>&amp; nice work mann!</p>
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