Comments on: Exclusive First Look @ The New York Times (Times) Reader: 5 minute screencast overview

By: mix and mash with bill | gotomobile

mix and mash with bill | gotomobile — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:27:54 +0000

[...] Also, we saw the Ny Times Reader application which is amazing. The reader has been available since September of this year – so this is not completely new – but it does start to change the way we think about ‘desktop’ and ‘interface’ and I encourage you to download and try it to see some pretty amazing options for reading and finding articles of interest. [...]

By: frankarr - an aussie microsoft blogger

frankarr - an aussie microsoft blogger — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:14:09 +0000

New York Times Reader : A WPF Real World Application…

The New York Times Reader application has gone live over the weekend. ( It was first announced back in…

By: John’s blog » Blog Archive » Screencast of The New York Times Reader for Windows Vista

Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:44:30 +0000

[...] In a collaborative effort Microsoft and The New York Times has developed a news reader application, called The New York Times Reader. The New York Times Reader is developed using Microsoft new technology called Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF), which can be compared with Adobe’s Flash technology. The program scales fonts and adjusts columns to create an authentic paper reading experience. It might not sound that exciting but have a look at Long Zheng’s screencast, while the video doesn’t do the program justice as it introduced choppiness, it does a good job of showing the different features, and communicating the amount of work that after all is needed for creating good reading experience. [...]

By: Dancin’ » .Net 3.0 - Closing the gap between designer and programmer

Dancin’ » .Net 3.0 - Closing the gap between designer and programmer — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:16:12 +0000

[...] Two examples of applications already using .net 3.0 are: Microsoft Max NY Times News Reader Video [...]

By: frankarr - an aussie microsoft blogger

frankarr - an aussie microsoft blogger — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:46:52 +0000

New York Times Reader : A WPF Real World Application

The New York Times Reader application has gone live over the weekend. (It was first announced…

By: Rob Relyea

Rob Relyea — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:55:50 +0000

We would definitely love your feedback on Expression Interacive Designer. The best place for that is here:
a) http://blogs.msdn.com/expression/archive/2006/09/06/743006.aspx
b) http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg= microsoft.public.expression.interactivedesigner&lang=en&cr=US

If you are interesting in digging into 3D support, there are several places to get started:

1) Zam3d – a tool from Electric Rain to help create 3D models that can be used in WPF using XAML.
http://www.erain.com/products/ZAM3D

2) import tools for other 3d formats.
http://blogs.msdn.com/mswanson/articles/WPFToolsAndControls.aspx

3) Charles Petzold’s article on 3D in WPF
http://www.charlespetzold.com/blog/2006/09/120140.html

4) SDK documentation for 3D
http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms747437.aspx

Thanks, Rob

By: tom

tom — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:14:34 +0000

Rob,

I am not disputing that the Times Reader is a fun application (I am sure Mr. Nielsen would argue differntly) but you are still not giving me any plausible argument as to what advantages WPF has over Flex/ Appolo. The layout engine in Appolo works just as well.

I have been diddling with both Flex Builder and MS Interative Designer. Coming from the Flash world I found it quite easy to adapt to Flex Builder. While I have a background in both C++ and Visual Basic I just don’t seem to get how Interative Designer ties in with the programming environment. Maybe I am too thick but at the moment I just find it very hard to get into it.

When I first heard about WPF I was very excited due to it’s native 3D support. However, so far I haven’t had much luck getting into the design environment. Any good resources you could point me to?

By: Rob Relyea

Rob Relyea — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:09:42 +0000

Tom-
Take a look at the text rendering and text layout capabilities. With WPF, it is incredibly easy to build great paginated reading experiences.

The job of the Times Reader is to be a great place to read the paper. I’m looking forward to hearing how people feel it does, once it they test drive it.

Go sign up for the beta…it should be available soon.

Thanks, Rob

By: tom

tom — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:36:46 +0000

Rob,

I am happy to be proven wrong. I just had another look at the video. Are you able to point out which features in the application (showcased in the video) are integral to the WPF/ .Net 3.0 framework but currently don’t exist or couldn’t be done in Flex?

As a media designer I feel WPFs strength is in 3d as well as “native application speed”. It’s draw back are that it’s limited to a very small install base. Maybe in 3 to 4 years it will be relevant. I just don’t see too many people downloading a 23 Mbyte runtime lib only so can see my application.

By: Rob Relyea

Rob Relyea — Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:46:33 +0000

“Everything the NY Times application does could have been done in Flex”

Tom-
I don’t know how this video confirmed all that for you. I think you should install it and use it when it is available and then give your analysis.

Thanks,
Rob Relyea
Program Manager, WPF Team