Comments on: Zoom-Zoom: comparison of browser page zooming http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/ All the stuff about Microsoft and technology you haven't read anywhere else. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:43:24 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Andrew http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-48321 Andrew Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:22:09 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-48321 Opera 9: "Instead of maintaining the focus in the centre of the page, it refocuses to the left most margin of the layout." That's great for English, but what about languages that go from right to left, or top to bottom? Or right-aligned layout? And mooh, if you use that argument, then why should IE change its CSS layout just because others had the benefit of developing their engines after mature standards had emerged? Should IE's layout not be considered standard? Opera 9:

“Instead of maintaining the focus in the centre of the page, it refocuses to the left most margin of the layout.”

That’s great for English, but what about languages that go from right to left, or top to bottom? Or right-aligned layout?

And mooh, if you use that argument, then why should IE change its CSS layout just because others had the benefit of developing their engines after mature standards had emerged? Should IE’s layout not be considered standard?

]]> By: mooh...uhm me http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1565 mooh...uhm me Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:30:01 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1565 i use opera's zoom function a lot, since it's the only way to watch youtube and dailymotion videos in true fullscreen (without having to see borders or the player menu). after trying all firefox extensions to accomplish the same with that favourite browser of mine, i had to realize that it's just not possible to force firefox to scale flash video. so opera is the first choice for me for that purpose (who wants to use ie anyways?). for the rest i usually stick to firefox as for the "failing standards": "Failing to follow the standard used by both Firefox and Internet Explorer, the keys are the plus and minus signs on your keypad instead of CTRL + Plus." may i remind you that opera supported zooming pages for nearly 6 years now and that firefox and ie just implemented that feature recently? why should a browser with a big user base change it's shortcuts it had for eons just because it's opponents decided to use different ones? makes no sense...if at all, then opera's shortcut for zooming should be considered being standard i use opera’s zoom function a lot, since it’s the only way to watch youtube and dailymotion videos in true fullscreen (without having to see borders or the player menu).

after trying all firefox extensions to accomplish the same with that favourite browser of mine, i had to realize that it’s just not possible to force firefox to scale flash video. so opera is the first choice for me for that purpose (who wants to use ie anyways?). for the rest i usually stick to firefox

as for the “failing standards”:

“Failing to follow the standard used by both Firefox and Internet Explorer, the keys are the plus and minus signs on your keypad instead of CTRL + Plus.”

may i remind you that opera supported zooming pages for nearly 6 years now and that firefox and ie just implemented that feature recently? why should a browser with a big user base change it’s shortcuts it had for eons just because it’s opponents decided to use different ones? makes no sense…if at all, then opera’s shortcut for zooming should be considered being standard

]]> By: Brian http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1238 Brian Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:42:58 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1238 Your results solidify my thinking that for a decent browsing experience via Windows Media Center that Opera is a must. The scaling makes it easier to browse from your couch and see the text without straining / squinting to capture the small text. Your results solidify my thinking that for a decent browsing experience via Windows Media Center that Opera is a must. The scaling makes it easier to browse from your couch and see the text without straining / squinting to capture the small text.

]]> By: Dagur http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1237 Dagur Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:21:11 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1237 Most definately. Firefox needs this feature now! Most definately. Firefox needs this feature now!

]]> By: Long Zheng http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1236 Long Zheng Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:15:27 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1236 Would you consider it a necessary accessibility feature? I would. Would you consider it a necessary accessibility feature? I would.

]]> By: Dagur http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1235 Dagur Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:11:52 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1235 Let's call things what they are. Firefox doesn't have zooming at all, it's just increase/decrease font size. IE7 actually allows you to zoom in however. Let’s call things what they are. Firefox doesn’t have zooming at all, it’s just increase/decrease font size. IE7 actually allows you to zoom in however.

]]> By: Long Zheng http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1234 Long Zheng Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:32:23 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1234 Not only do I zoom because the font is small, but I could literally be sitting 3 feet away from the monitor. I want to see all the content on the website (text+image), so page zooming would benefit me. Not only do I zoom because the font is small, but I could literally be sitting 3 feet away from the monitor. I want to see all the content on the website (text+image), so page zooming would benefit me.

]]> By: Luke Dawson http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1233 Luke Dawson Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:23:45 +0000 http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060831/zoom-zoom/#comment-1233 Actually, I kind of like the way firefox does it, mainly because I'm not interested in the images when I visit a website. Everybody's trying to win the "I've got the smallest font" competition these days, and it's nice to just Ctrl++ and increase just the text. And isn't that the point? Yeah I know, accessibility and all that. Actually, I kind of like the way firefox does it, mainly because I’m not interested in the images when I visit a website. Everybody’s trying to win the “I’ve got the smallest font” competition these days, and it’s nice to just Ctrl++ and increase just the text. And isn’t that the point? Yeah I know, accessibility and all that.

]]>